For other variations or special cases, see the template's documentation. Note that this patch is unofficial. The official Bethesda-released patches are documented at Patch and Special Edition Patch ; the official patches include some fixes that for technical reasons e.
Therefore, installing the official patches is still required. Also, the unofficial patch is not available for Xbox and PS3 players, as they cannot install any third-party content. Here is my bug report for Open Cities Skyrim:. No way to tell what caused it. It was the first crash I've had with SSE. But other than that, I saw none of the supposed issues.
All NPCs were in their normal starting locations. The Solitude execution scene played fine. My fps crashed a couple times from 60 to Usually the first time entering a gate. But nothing at all after that in the old game I would have a pretty good dip if I looked back through an open gate, but even then it was momentary. I've seen an awful lot of comments along the lines of, "I installed the mod, then disabled it, then enabled it again, etc. Not just console people either.
People are wrecking their games right and left. Or they have driver or other system issues. Who knows? Anyway, fine work. When entering Markarth for the 1st time you see a murder scene. With OCS installed the murderer is alone, speaks alone, doesn't kill the victim of course , then attacks the near stand keeper, then triggers the guards counter-attacks and die. Then the victim pops out probably by using the hidden doors that connect OCS to the 'regular cities' and greets me for saving her I don't know if it's an OCS or a new engine related issue.
I however remember about a few similar glitches. But would it be possible to design it so as all theses inconvenient broken scenes among few others are repaired? I guess it would probably require a brand new game start, a significant and consequent update to all NPCs various placing markers, their attached properties and scripts, and same thing for most of the CW related quests.
I think I know the answer but hey, I need to hear it from your mouth, Arthmoor In my test I went to all cities after waiting 24 hours. All the weirdness people have been reporting occurred. It sent me to the closed cell to spar with Vilkas, npc's were travelling back and forth between the cells, etc. I restarted and waited 24 hours inside Jorrvaskr before going out to spar. Everything was fine then, except for one minor issue.
Vilkas did not use his shield and took a small amount of damage I have a save file for this. When I started another game without OCS , he used his shield and took no damage just like vanilla.
There is a task in the bugtracker about this, added back in July, it looks like. It supposedly can happen in vanilla at high difficulty, but I've never tested that. But I was able to complete the sparring, he did not turn hostile.
When I did it the first time, when I didn't wait 24 hours, everyone turned hostile. If you Alternate Start in an Open City, you must first wait 24 hours before going outside you'll start in an inn, house, or guild hall. Or wackiness ensues. Nico, as you can probably imagine, I've put the mod through multiple extensive tests to ferret out issues with things like that. The Markarth attack scene, the Solitude execution scene, the one where Idolaf and Adrianna are talking about ordering weapons for the legion in Whiterun, Mjoll and Aerin in Riften, etc.
They all work flawlessly for me. The NPCs are out and about doing what they should be doing and it looks like everything is in its proper place. I've never had any reason to suspect issues before. Guards should even be starting in the open cities because all their spawn markers have been relocated.
The remainder who start outdoors all got relocated to open city spaces so it shouldn't be an issue even for them since the game handles most things by the editor locations. It could very well be that SSE has done something stupid and the 24 hour in-game wait period is necessary even on a new game, but I have not seen this be the case in my own tests yet. Yes, the mod is also designed to be installed midway through a game and the NPCs have never had any trouble with that either.
Well, perhaps it's working for you, but for me nope it doesn't work. Before I continue, I manage to fix the issue I mention in my previous post about a standing Jon Battle-Born just outside of Belethor's shop. This is what I did. First, I make a normal save then I uninstalled OCS and waited for 24 hours before making another normal save then I fast travel to Whiterun. Everything was back to normal. I returned to Whiterun as soon as I could just to see what happens and notice these things I mention below.
Doing that actually fixed the issue I had with Jon Battle-Born, however, other things like the dialogue for Ysolda about she is trying to learn more about trading doesn't show up in-game, unless a skill level for the Speech skill is required I doubt there is but not sure? I also notice the scene with Adrianna talking about ordering weapons, but she is talking to no one and she is alone at the forge. However, I tought everything was working as intended, but since I waited indoors in High Hrothgar for 24 hours I think there might an issue with OCS that somehow affects Arngeir.
After I returned to High Hrothgar to find Arngeir just to get another radiant word of power quest from him, he is gone and I have been looking for him multiplied times without finding him anywhere. Arngeir is definitely MIA and I suspect he hasn't transferred to the correct worldspace yet, otherwise I should being able to find him somewhere in High Hrothgar. None of that is the result of problems with OCS. You're seeing AI delays that are old random bugs leftover from Patch 1.
Shroob has mentioned them before. They cause oddities like Idolaf not showing up for his scene on time and such. He thinks they may have made some of that worse and it may be related to why consoles have NPCs getting flung all over the map even without mods. Also, your save is broken if you uninstalled OCS and then put it back.
Nothing can fix it now. I see. I didn't know about the random bugs leftover from the original Skyrim. Well, I still have that save before I starting this, so perhaps my game isn't broken after all. EDIT: I thought I could continue, but hell no my game is a complete mess so I decided to toss out everything and start over after the first game patch is released.
Arthmoor, I've only tried this one city start with ocs active, but I definitely had strange behavior in Whiterun when I didn't immediately wait 24 hours. I did that twice, and waited twice new game each time, of course. Waiting fixed everything, except that one odd difference with vilkas sparring. One example, when I didn't wait, I could not reenter jorrvaskr in the open cell, I had to go to the closed cell.
And half the npcs in the city were going back and forth through the AI door. I'll test it with other city starts when i can. In the old game i was able to add it mid game without issues like this. When putting my snout in OCS I saw that the city lighting system works almost flawlessly but is totally unimplemented in Windhelm.
Is it intended? Yeah, pretty sure I left those on for Windhelm because the beggar uses them to warm her hands so it would have looked dumb to do that with no fire lit. I think I figured out the weirdness. I caught up on various threads the other day and learned two things about which I was previously unaware.
Guess which two things I had already done? Anyway, I restored my masters from backup and confirmed them. Then uninstalled all 3 mods and reinstalled them with NMM. Both without waiting for 1 hour. I did not see any of the issues I saw before. Now, I only ran this one test. I doubt most people who've reported things cleaned their masters, but I'd bet they all used the in-game mod organizer.
I haven't clean the masters yet and I'll wait for another game patch, but I also want to wait for another update for SSEEdit before I clean the masters. When I became aware of the loadorder bug and got Sharlikran's Wrye Bash I decided not to touch the in-game mod sorter, instead I always exit Skyrim and manually sort my loadorder in WB then I rebuild the bashed patch. Which have worked so far even I use the Mods option in the game menu just to check for updates and new mods.
My daughter tested the theory tonight with a new game level 1. LaL and Open Cities are at the bottom of the Load Order will list exact order if you need it and Return to Helgen was in the load order a few slots above both of those. Door opened fine and the executioner scene played out normally however the pop-up stating Helgen had been rebuilt never came up and when she went back to Helgen nothing was changed.
So it seems the MA is right. This may be expected, from your perspective and maybe nothing can be done to make the two compatible but I wanted to check in with you. Yes, well, the particular MA in question here has a colorful history of being So most of us pay little if any attention to his complaints. The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim [v.
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